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I've been watching alot of Ruroni Kenshin and there's a guy in there who's a stoic hard ass leader of this Oniwaban group, guy's name is Aoshi Shinomori. This guy MUST have copied everything about Sesshomaru and applied it to this character. I had to go look the character up because I thought it *was* David Kaye. Turns out it's this guy named Terrance Stone (appeared on Kenshin under the name Terry Roberts)



4 minutes in, he's the young guy in the trenchcoat talking to the old guy.

What do you guys think?

Date: December 17th, 2009 04:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravyn-skye.livejournal.com
These voice actors usually have done more than twenty anime's a peice, and usually do similar characters. They work in 'troupes', and David Kaye is part of Viz's 'Ocean Group'.

You'll often see the same voice actors doing TONS of different animes, and they all work together ALL the time.

Usually, they will assign animes to the groups as a whole, or several members of the same groups.

Terrance Stone has done:
Anime Roles

* Apocalypse Zero as Kagenari
* Arc the Lad (TV) as Chimera, Gequbec, Hunter B, Monster, Soldier, Wounded Soldier
* Bleach as Yoruichi Shihouin's Cat Form, Mayuri Kurotsuchi
* Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo as Czar Baldy Bald IV
* Cosmowarrior Zero as Ishikura
* Chobits as Yoshiyuki Kojima
* Digimon Data Squad as Biyomon
* Duel Masters as Kokujoh
* Eureka Seven as Morita
* Fake as Randy Mclane
* Gestalt as Gladiator B; Shazan
* Magic Knight Rayearth as Innova, Selece, Ferio
* Magic Knight Rayearth 2 as Selece, Ferio
* Nightwalker as Student A; Truck Driver
* Naruto as Minister Shabadaba (Naruto Movie 3)
* Reign: The Conqueror as Satibarzanes
* Rurouni Kenshin as Shinomori Aoshi
* Saiyuki Reload as Kougaji
* Saiyuki Gunlock as Kougaji
* Viewtiful Joe as Charles III, Biankies
* X as Kakyo Kuzuki

David Kaye has done:
Animation

* Death Note - Shinigami (ep4), additional voices
* Dragon Ball Z - Recoome, Brocco
* Barbie Mariposa - Royal Guard
* Barbie and the Three Musketeers - Alexander
* Barbie as Rapunzel - Hugo
* MegaMan NT Warrior - ProtoMan.EXE
* Ronin Warriors - The Ancient One/Narrator
* Coconut Fred's Fruit Salad Island - Bunga Berry
* Beast Wars/Beast Machines - Megatron and Savage/Noble
* Exosquad - General Draconis, Lt. Hallas
* Skysurfer Strike Force - Jack Hollister/Skysurfer One (season 2)
* X-Men: Evolution - Professor X, Apocalypse, Jamie Madrox
* InuYasha - Sesshomaru
* Make Way for Noddy - Big Ears
* Mobile Suit Gundam Wing - Treize Khushrenada
* Key the Metal Idol - Tomoyo Wakagi
* Ranma ½ - Soun Tendo, The Gambling King, Daisuke, Additional Voices
* Street Fighter - Akuma
* Kong: The Animated Series - Professor Ramon De la Porta
* Transformers Armada, Transformers Energon, Transformers Cybertron - Megatron, Galvatron
* Kleo The Misfit Unicorn - Slim and Various
* Class of the Titans - Cronus
* Broken Saints - Lear Dunham
* Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes - Iron Man
* The Greatest Heroes of the Bible - Various voices
* Transformers: Animated - Optimus Prime, Grimlock, Lugnut, Cliffjumper, Warpath, Highbrow
* Fatal Fury 2: The New Battle/Fatal Fury: The Motion Picture - Kim Kaphwan
* Night Warriors: The Anime - Pyron
* Eat-Man '98 - Bolt Crank (Only in the first two episodes; the remaining episodes were not dubbed into English)
* Maison Ikkoku - Master of Cha-Cha Maru
* Monster Rancher - Monol, Captain Clay, Celius, End Bringer
* Up - Newsreel announcer
* Rapunzel - Hugo, General
* Wolverine and the X-Men -
* Iron Man: Armored Adventures - Fin Fang Foom


I don't think Terrance has 'studied' Sesshoumaru's character, OR David Kaye's voice acting method. XD

I'm sure it's just coincidence born of the fact that the character of Sesshomaru is HARDLY a unique type of character.

(RT just isn't that creative XP~)

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Actually, Sesshoumaru's character is very just... Archetypal.

He's the 'stoic samurai' who has a weakness/softness for only ONE person.

The 'Stoic Samurai' asshole that no one 'likes' in the show and often starts out as an enemy, but becomes a reluctant ally and/or whose character growth is shown by them protecting someone weaker than themselves, is a VERY common theme in Anime.

The more anime you watch, the more you'll realize that almost ALL shonen shows have a 'Sesshoumaru' and almost ALL shonen shows have an 'Inuyasha'. (Bleach has Ichigo, who is very, VERY like Inuyasha.)

Date: December 17th, 2009 05:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sonjajade.livejournal.com
OHHHHhhh, I see now.

>_< I'm such an anime nooblette still. Hey, question: is it typical for these stoic samurai guys to always fall for a young girl? granted this Misao girl that Aoshi is into is 16, but there are flashbacks to when he began training her to be a ninja when she was only 8, and it's suggested they have a romantic link from before he sent her to Kyoto when she was 10.

I have about 30 more kenshin episodes to get through (I've been getting through about 10 a day so far @_@), then I'm gonna do this one series called Bastard (a 6 episode OVA series) and then I think I want to start either Trigun or Cowboy Bebop... Any suggestions? I have a list I keep adding to, these are all series suggested by my guy friends, I'd love a feminine opinion.

Thanks for the information chick, I had no idea it was all that closely related as far as the voice acting goes. I figured they did crossover some, but I didn't know it was to that degree. (snicker, Sess' voice in a barbie movie)

Date: December 17th, 2009 06:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravyn-skye.livejournal.com
Nothing wrong with being a noob! We all were at some point or another, and it's only those who've been in fandom for awhile cluing us in on how stuff works, that we eventually become un-noob-ified!

Yeah, they are all VERY closely related in the anime voice actin world. Most dubs are done by 'dub groups' by one of only two companies, which are based in VanCouver, Canada.

I'm sure they all know each other VERY well XDDD

Ummm... I don't know if 'fall for' is exactly the right word... But often, there is a younger girl involved in their lives... It's usually to show their softer side/character growth, and make the audience like them, despite what assholes they usually are.

Young girls are a thing of fascination in Japanese Anime, even if it's not a SEXUAL fascination, and most animes will have at least one or two 'token lolis'. Rin for Inuyasha, Yachiru for Bleach (a little girl who was adopted by the meanest, badest, most battle-hungry and powerful characters there is, Kenpachi taichou. He isn't 'stoic', but he's another example of a badass who is 'softened' by his relationship with a little girl.)


Observe:
Sess/Rin (Inuyasha) A hard-ass noble who adopted a young peasent orphan on a 'whim' and later dives into hell to save her life.
Byaukuya/Rukia (Bleach) A hard-ass noble who adopted Rukia even though she was a peasent (as a way to fulfill a promise to his dead wife who was also a peasent and her older sister. Byakuya took a blade to the HEART to save her life.)
Kaname/Yuuki (Vampire Knight) (The Shojo version of the 'stoic' guy, so he's more romantic/open with his feelings when it comes to his 'special girl' than most shonen versions of this archetype) A noble guy who is actually Yuuki's long-lost older bro/fiance, who spends 10yrs manipulating people/situations to save her from evil uncle Rido who wants to kill her, and so they can be together again.)
Vivi/Hana (Hana to Akuma) (A demon who adopts a young girl when she's a baby on a whim, and, now that she's fourteen and has fallen in love with him, he's saved her from the demon king and their relationship is developing even more. She's always been his 'special' girl though XD)

Just the Bleach Example, for instance:

Byakuya/Sesshoumaru shared characteristics:
Noble Birth
Stoic, don't talk much
Arrogant
Feared by most people around them
Despite all these things, his sense of PRIDE and HONOR prevent him from being a 'true' bad guy.
Incredibly powerful (Arguably one of the three most powerful characters in the show.)
Powerful swords that they have personal attachments to.
Adopted Rukia/Rin, (But not as a daughter), both young girls weaker than themselves, and of low social standing, and now devote themselves entirely to protecting those girls, all while still treating them coldly, and never coming out and saying he actually cares about her.
Defeat characters who put her life in jeopardy, and claim that it is because putting her life in jeopardy is an insult to his PRIDE.
Starts off as a 'bad guy' only to later become a supporting 'good guy' and fights against the main bad guy, along with the hot-head hero, despite still holding disdain for said hero. (Inuyasha in Sesshoumaru's case, Ichigo in Byakuya's case)
Motivations often unclear, but usually even actions that seem 'bad' have a 'good' purpose once those motivations are revealed.

As for suggestions... Depends on what you like. Vampire Knight is a fandom that isn't too old, and has a definite ROMANCE aspect going. (Canon loli romance, with Yuuki who has been engaged to him since she was born. CUTE scenes of them kissing when she's like 4 and he's like 8 or so *DAAAAAAAAWS*

Bleach is good if you like more action, but less romance, and you'll probably fall in love with Byakuya, if you like Sesshoumaru.

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Date: December 17th, 2009 08:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sonjajade.livejournal.com
ok, started VK, watched the first 2 episodes (too pukey feeling tonight to keep sittin behind this computer) and so far I like it. I feel sorry for Zero.... he's struggling real bad right this moment.

Alright I'm off to bed for the evening!

Date: December 17th, 2009 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravyn-skye.livejournal.com
VK's first season is all about Yuuki and Zero. The next season is all about Yuuki/Kaname, and the rest hasn't been animated, and is only in manga form.

I already spoiled some of VK for you, but even if you know, it's still worth it to watch!

Date: December 17th, 2009 10:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sonjajade.livejournal.com
I don't mind, spoilers don't mean anything really to me, I always enjoy seeing the final product no matter what anyone tells me lol. Oh, totally unrelated but I have a sess/rin avatar to give you. I'll send it in a PM so no one steals it! lol

Date: December 17th, 2009 11:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravyn-skye.livejournal.com
I'm the same way, I don't care about 'spoilers' either. Even if I know the end of the movie, I still wanna watch it!

Okay! Thanks!

Date: December 18th, 2009 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravyn-skye.livejournal.com
GOT IT!!!

SPANKS YOU VERY MUCH, SWEET-STUFF!

Date: December 18th, 2009 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ravyn-skye.livejournal.com
OH, and any manga that has THIS:

Image

and THIS:

Image

As canon, is definitely worth checking out, ne?

http://www.onemanga.com/hana_to_akuma/01/01

Date: December 18th, 2009 11:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sonjajade.livejournal.com
WOW, >drool< yeah gonna have to look at that!!

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